healthy folks to play for the sloths like me, and now we're gouging the healthy folks while i get off scot-free? i personally have no problem with that but it is ironic, is it not? >> it is ironic. in the measures that some of the accountable care organizations will be using for trying to determine whether or not they're meeting certain benchmarks. there will be certain measures that are implemented, measuring your body fat, measuring your triglycerides. those things are in there. whether or not that's going to translate into lower healthcare premiums for those who are healthy remains to be seen. this is just a boondoggle. it's going to be something based on cost, on quality, and on access, and so far, everybody is getting a taste of how bad the costs are going to be. this hasn't even really hit yet. wait until there's problems with access and quality. >> that's a whole nuther seth scope, i guess that's a poor analogy. >> first it was the nfl, then the nba, now this. >> it's been a madhouse, lisa. >> neil: now the white house is going after the library crowd if there is such a thing anymore, to